The New Gold System is based on 2 types of Gold:
Reliable Gold - Any bounty you get from hero kills or from the extra "aoe kill gold" bonus (feature from few patches ago) is added to your Reliable Gold pool.
Unreliable Gold - It is everything else (creep kills, neutrals, etc).
Dying can only take away gold from your Unreliable Gold pool and not from your Reliable Gold. Buying items uses up your Unreliable Gold first before using your Reliable Gold.
An example: You have 910 total gold (500 Unreliable, 410 Reliable). If you buy Boots of Speed, you'll have 410 total gold left (0 Unreliable, 410 Reliable). However, if you bought Chainmail, you would have 360 Reliable Gold left.The process is seamless to the user, you won't have to do anything extra to make it work. Your total gold is still displayed in the same place. Your Reliable Gold is displayed in your scoreboard title.
This is a new experimental idea that may be adjusted and tweaked over time depending on feedback and results after it is released. As always, let me know anything you want to see in future versions.
So guys, Do you like the idea of New Gold System in Dota Allstars 6.68? Share your thoughts and reviews via comments!
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 248 Newer› Newest»Woah. That's SO NEW.
great, me like!
first blood!!!
omg this amazing the new style 4 play
ah ok
Nice :D
First blood!
It means, If I die it will cut my unreliable gold not Reliable. Right?
I dunno, It can make ganking carrys unreliable somtimes, if they buy items for all their unreliable gold, they wont lose anything (only the exp and gold they would get from staying in the lane).
Completely useless
It will make DotA much more competitive to the point that may change the Metagame... Anyway I like it, and let's see what happens
Best wishes !
i loved it =D
Please make new recipe for better town portal, which it can teleport more than one hero.
its a new thing to try...^^
and expect the 6.68 coming~
@Anonymous, yes exactly :D
JeraldPunx
basicly.. means this..
ganker.. with a lot of kills.. will have a lot of gold (reliable) and dying will not reduce his money.. so ppl who are just ganking can just take more risks..
the game will hopefully be more gank-oriented now..
no more chinese 50min farm.. with 300 cs..
i think not very useful in dota playing
I like that :D
I like the new gold system
damn i dont like it ;(
We want a new map soon ... pls speed up a bit, thank you: D
guess its better than before :)
Hmm sounds cool. At least now I dont haf to worry about having not enough money to buy a TP. :P
just nice.
Nice..haha..cant wait t0o seE..
WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF THIS??
YEP! Amazing WE WANT MORE AWESOME NEWS!!!!!!
nice one!!!!!
sounds good
ok thats enough for the news..... we need to try ourselves the new map now......... so plz be hurry...............
its like techies suicide skill...you earn money from killing hero but you wont lose gold
i think this is going to change the game in a way we don't know
this is bullshit. let me tell you why.
why is this need to the player to have 2 "sources" of gold ? What does this help for ? If the reliable gold and unreliable gold total is the same as now is, then what in Earth would we need this for ? Just to confuse players. And be careful, new players will be so fucked up, they will never learn DOTA as easily as they can learn it now.
If somebody smarter than me can tell me WHAT do we need it for, then go ahead please with all respect.
And by the way, this is NOT an AMAZING new style of play or bullshit. I guess IceFrog is getting tired of creating new heroes, so now he has these idiotic thoughts like this one.
that is great!!!!
the skeleton says....
IMBA!!!.... i think its not a good idea...
NICE,
niceeeeeee...........now noobs can learn to carry :D
its more easy at least chances are less gold be deducted when your hero dies.
LOL. Now nobody will ever play TB again!
Nothing Special?
@12:50, yes that is what they said zzz.....
arg.... little confuzing =/
can some1 eplain why it = 360 reliable gold?
NO IDEA ABOUT IT
WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR GOLD WHEN YOU DIE?.,
new one. great. try it 1st
there was a bug??
i`m see that terrible. it`s ok?
This new system means people that gank heroes are more benefitable as their gold won't decrease when they die.
What a stupid idea. If this two types of gold dont have difference such as "example up there" then thats the point?!!??!?!?!
and this idea is for "noobs"
It's so easy to farm!!
yeah, so you can save up without losing gold :D
Super news! A gameplay of new dota will be more interest and dynamyc! [r_AID]
I think this will be a new level for those players
wow guys that system is so good and helpfull i guess that icefrog know what he id doing in 6.68 version
How's the distribution from the total gold to the reliable and unreliable? If you bought the boots of speed, what will happen then? And if you buy something, it will just deduct it. It sucks!
s2pid >_< making things more complicated..well ice frog this is for you ,,l,, suck it!
Its just the same as before, the only thing is they cut the total gold in 2 kinds.
GREAT!!
woot!
release the map!!!
whats the use of separating the gold like that?
Wooo nice nice..
new system
I dont get the point of this new gold system . .
What if you have 300 gold (150 reliable,150 unreliable)
then u die . .gold will cut 200 gold . .if u hav 150 unreliable gold then what happen to the the 50 gold?does it have to cut from reliable also?
What does it mean by "aoe kill bonus" though?
Not a fan, this will only help to encourage ganking since gold gained that way will be "safe", while actually pushing a lane will be less desirable since all gold earned that way is subject to being lost.
The gold system is fine as it is, no reason to favor one type of gold gain over another. If you do nothing but gank it wont matter if you die a lot because your gold will never be taken from you. But if you push/carry a lane you are at risk of losing money, even more so since skilless ganking will be rewarded and skilled pushing will be punished.
what does it mean by "aoe kill bonus" though??
like double kill/triple kill??
what so ugly
3 stars.
Rampage!!
dat mean if i kill a hero n die imdtly.......i don loose the hero kill gold............correct me if i wrong.....lik 1st blood if i tak i won loose the whole 500 gold evn if i get killed........
1 mor thing wat if i don hav unreliable gold Amount wen i die n only her kill gold wen i die ............den no no deduction of gold at all??????
it is hard to understand
great now DOTA will be fun
Lol.. very nice :D
mhmh i think you'd have a little time thinking at first but you won't give a shit in time :D
not a good idea as it makes it more complex! and im not clear about the benefit for adding this up!
vryyyyy nice especialy in gangs gold gets wasted if u die so now buy invevnt n den go in :D zero waste :D
Yeah boy
bobo
Double Kill!!
so hard new system gold!!
but try it 1st..
nice, it mean if u dont kill anyone, u wont lose any gold O.o
wa!!!
NICE!
wortless i think lol :D
Woots Imagine BH's reliable gold if he only spends unreliable gold
hahah!!!!
thats great!!!
hope the video were done!!
This is Awesomeeeeeeeeeeeee Beyond Godlike
wHy tHey nEed to d0 sUch tHings like that...
-_-''' if ur unreliable gold finished, it also cuts ur reliable gold what = =
y..nice ^_^
its not that i dont agree.. its just too crazy...
hmm.....if my un reliable gold is zero.. does it decrease if i die??.and will the person who killed me get gold still?....what about those farm type heroes!? WHAT!? force them to kill!? what the hell this system surely will cause nothing but lag.. but! we'll see----------
Well this is something new a revolution in dota, and we will see how it goes in practice
any other news?
nice !1 :D
whoaw!!!
that's cool!!
no change at all...urgh
Not bad ^^
nice,,,,,,its ok...at least theres a change of system...i think dota will be more exciting i think???....Icefrog hurry up the 6.68 map weve been waiting 2 long now.,,,!!! hope this news give excitement 2 da game..
THE HELL! I LIKE IT!!
Wow!
Icefrog FTW
lo...no use....6.68 said almost 2month ored..,fast pls
i like it :)
YEA THATS IS GREAT !
I HATE IT ..
I think reliable
and unreliable are the same
because as the example said
if you buy over the price
the reliable money well it will be so down
I like you ICEFROG
but your System sucks
Well guys..This idea is has two sides like a coin :) In the one side is the greed for gold and the fear of ganging in order not to die and lose money that was for items. This side of the coin also affects the game because it becomes more boring and team work really does not exist. This mode will help players not to afraid of ganging and losing money...On the other side, in my opinion, a player who focuses on ganging and generally uses KILLs as an gold earning method will not be able to be stopped as their gold would not be reduced in any ways , so they would not be stopped from buying new items...Let's spin the coin :P
plez release it.. can't wait any longer.. dont make me stress icefrog.. pleeezzzz....
I dont know about this new idea. Its bold. Lets try it.
I am not the one wholl get trolled to death. (;
It sucks >.<
icefrog is crazy... xD
why won't he just release it now?
he's just making us excited.
but about the new gold new systems,
i have no idea if its better or sucks..
let's just try it if its good. :D
nice
Wth? lol. U NID MORE MATHS!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG.......STRESSFUL. but quite a good thing hehe. but i will comfirm can confused. :((((
this system is confusing... like what happens if you die and you don't have any unreliable gold? do you lose your reliable gold instead? if not... it's actually much easier to earn gold, if you actually could kill a hero.
noooooooooooob gamerz!!!! not gonna agree with that because the purpose OF KILLING THE HERO IS TO PREVENT IT FROM EARNING THE GOLD SO THAT THE OPPONENT CANNOT BUY THE RECIPE OR ITEM IT NEEDS TO WON... BUT IF THAT RELIABLE COIN CONTINUES THE WHOLE DOTA GAMERS WILL JUST FIND DOTA AS EASY AS A BABY'S GAME... IT SHOULD NOT BE LIKE THAT... IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN THE GAME WOULD JUST DEPEND ON THE HERO U WERE USING... FOR MORE ISSUE VISIT ME AT MY fb BILLY_ALFRED_00@Y.C
Your gonna make it more confusing!!!
What if the reliable gold and unreliable gold can buy both items. But the reliable gold can buy items with added "+" stats.
Example:
Item: Chain Mail
Price: 550
Stats: +5 Armor
Unreliable gold: +5 Armor
Reliable gold: +10 Armor
so damn original by n0vA*
wla nang tatalo sakin!!
It's still the same, is just separate the hero kill gold to normal kill gold.
chill people... its just a new system... try it befor u say more... and then give him a chance to change it to the old way or to fix it...we will see how that ends...
dont like it.. it make things complicated..
Sounds great! ;D
THIS GOLD SYSTEM WILL TEACH YOU ECONOMICALLY HOW YOU EARN GOLD FROM KILLS OR HOW NOOB YOU ARE IF YOU'RE WEREN'T EARN UNRELIABLE GOLD.
NICE man
That's sucks.. we want old style one but new map n hero.. There's so many bugs in heroes movement speed.. How MS 300 become too fast?..
I like the new gold system
no deal of releasing it... if this will be released soon... dota community will have the different way of playing it... what about the dummies(NEW GAMERS?BEGINNERS?) they would be doing the rules with that new stuff without knowing the rule of the dota world we've played before... NO TO IT!!!
---emple
VÃO TODOS TOMAR NO CU, FILHOS DE UMA VAGABUNDA!!!!
ICEFROG NERD, GO FIND A GIRL...
I dont think its a great idea...
Why are you all idiots spamming? You totally missunderstood the meaning of this thing. This will force more ganking, and more aggresive play. When you die you wont lose any of the money you've earned by kills, this way gankers and supporters will get fast boots, more wards and more support for the carryes. It's a great concept, and i totally give this a T-Up. Good Job IceFrog
bad idea, because if some player dont play like a team now all wanna play individualy because all will want teh reliable golde and all will be Kill Stealers for the money and that will be bulllshit because theres will not teamplay, so i dont agree that function.
PD sorry for my grammar
WHY'D YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT SO CONFUSING.
JUST KEEP THE ORIGINAL OMFG.
DO YOU WANT 90% OF THE DOTA POPULATION TO QUIT?
there are so many f..kin noobs that can't understand this, so please make it easy for yourself and stop commenting about it and qouit playing this game
I think it's a good function, cause now when we gank only 1 person gets the gold. So I see no difference only now when we die we don't lose the reliable gold.
IMBA ! Xp no haha but i dont think players need this because its actually pointless because it dosent make a difference . LOL
this is confusing... tsk.. tsk... tsk...
it's good...
i cant say it's nice, most of the players dont understand what reliable and unreliable golds are...
yea..and even if your teammates keep kssing you to get the kill for himself to get fat, so what? You are able to get the exp as well, not that you did not get anything. Sooner or later you will outlevel the opponent and it will be an advantage for you, and you yourselves should have the skill to farm to catch up with your teammates, (if you don't have it, i suggest QUIT DotA please) in addition to the advantage you have, you have a higher chance of survivability.. So, who cares if they really wanna ks us ? Just let them be, they are just a mere sore losers that are afraid of losing to people, these kind of people wouldn't improve much
RELIABLE????????? UNRELIABLE??????? WAT THE FAQ??? MY COMP IS UNRELIABLE!!!!!!!!!
Its Useless....
opo toh iki.. aku ora mudeng..
Sucks!
omg!!! great news for gondar IMBA xD jajajja interesting and will turn the game in the double of ganks, so if you gank a hero and that hero manages to kill 1 of your teamates ganking him he get the gold on reliable and diying will be no problem at all :S, another thing zeus will be ks and saving money for growing up very secure :D
sounds cool coz its about time for them to make something new in the game
nono ! bad idea ! take it away !i like dota wif new heroes n items ! plz dun chg the way to ply !
old is the best why change the legendary?
It is SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
dont like it :((
tking 1st blood will be attracting
u go sm how kill the heroes in their twrs....even if u die u don lose gold...n dis is wtf !!
This is way too complicated. Really no recommended.. Well at the end of the day the only objective is not to get killed!
we can then earn money from killing each other purposely..I kill you, you kill me,,we get a fountain of gold that never gets deducted!!lol
Ex. reliable gold doesn't get deducted:
A kills B(A gets 250 RG)
B kills A at the same time(maledict or something)
and they both have 250,,lol...
I Love PIKACHU!!
Sound nice, worth a try :)
but thats useless........
good
it make me can collect gold more to purchase expensive item
oomg this "improvement" is useless!! whats the difference..you still can use both of them =="
its sucks cause even if you kill a hero with zero unreliable gold the reliable will still remain,,
I DON'T THINK THIS NEW SYSTEM IS A GREAT IDEA THOUGH SINCE IT'LL BE A BIT UNFAIR TO SOME HEROES. IN A TEAM CONSISTS OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF FIGHTERS, SOME ARE SUPPORTIVE TYPE AND SOME ARE KILLER TYPE, AND THIS WILL BE A BIG ADVANTAGE FOR THE KILLERS INSTEAD OF THE SUPPORTIVE TYPE WILL BE IN DISADVANTAGE. THINK ABOUT IT MAN.
Good. especially for gankers in the aoe kill gold.
just made it more complicated and irritating sory
why cant he jus make 2 versions 1 with and 1 without? would ber great
yeah! cool! this will make dota more strategical!
Gotta love the idiots and noobs who don't have a clue what it's all about. I think it could be nice idea, don't know for sure until little testing though.
It's obviously aimed at competetive scene, but on the other hand it might encourage useless deaths that feed the enemy on public games. "I don't lose money so it doesnt matter if I go die alone against 4 enemies!!!1oneone."
nice................
its not good. for ppl who is not good in calculation. you dont even know how much they have farmed!
I think this is the hardest way to learn dota. Because we need to care about our reliable gold and unreliable gold. on my opinion just take out this bullshit system.make it like the others DotA map. Dont change the system for this temporally. Better change the map look . Put more things example, more hide seek place, change the roshan look, the pathways, trees, building, put more animals something, nc creeps . There's so much things u can done . DOnt put on this system yet.ignore for a moment . This my Opinion.
for anyone whos disagree with this new system, stop talking like it is that too easy to maintain and improve a game like this.. use your brains.. it can always be rolled back to the old system once this new system really sucks in a real gameplay.. lets just wait to play the map before making any childish comments and being the i-know-everything-man.. personally, i hope this will make the game more challenging.. :)
and more, this is not all ICEFROG's idea.. so dont blame him..
so pitlord, alchemist, and other really well farmers need to be warned to not lose they gold :S
its quite confusing , but i sort of get it, its hard to farm now, its better the older one
yeah it's confuse -.-.....BUT COOLLLLLL
yes its confusing and we wont earn easy gold.I didnt like it it wont work i think not a good idea.
It's something new but it doesn't seem like a good system. It makes plyers easier to earning. Harras will be not enough to PRESS opponent already.
not bad not good lets see what will happen
THIS FAILS! IT WILL BE A GANKING GAME COZ U WONT LOSE A RELIABLE GOLD IF U DIE! IT FAILS!
this is shit too many heroes will be so imbalanced
spectre, visage , pit ,alchemist, trax, Terror blade,
gondar and many more WTF is wrong with ice frog his leading dota into shitmode. why dont he just make 2 modes one normal mode and one this shit mode?
it sucks ..
ahaks....ths is nice guys...now u would think twice when denying ur creeps cause it will take away ur gold...i hate denyers anyway....ahahahaha
well...i don't like it much but we'll see
this was what was actually needed in the game, good job
This is good
nicely done icegrog
This is a problem if you were gank more often -_-
its useless(1\5)stars its for noob
come on.. release it..
i dont lik it...!!!
cool men hehhe
from phil.
so well explained... the only confusing part is the AOE kill bonus. Shut the fuck up. DOTA is nearing its end July 12, 2010 "League of Legends" was released a free to play online DOTA like game... same maker of the original DOTA - "Guinsoo". Apart from it there is HON (Heroes of Newerth) a DOTA like game too. Think twice, 3x or maybe more... before only a week or less to release a new map, now it takes 3 months or so. DOTA = DEAD. R.I.P.
i dont think so...
Sorry But i dont like it.......... This will make dota an easy game as a baby......... We want Harder Gameplay not fucking easy like this!!!
NC HAHA it works
no i dont like it
really good! ^^,
shut the hell up people what the hell is wrong with all of you?
Dota is not going to die from this if your so damn worried about it then why are you here checking news updates for it?
WTFF! HAHA . cOOOL
it seems it will spoil the game. having no deduction in your unreliable money if you die and still everyone else can have their item even they die or ganked time to time, so why do you have to be afraid to be push a lane alone if their will be no risk of loosing your money if you die?
Pretty Cool, but made DoTA easier O.o
-.- man looking at people not smarter than a peanut commenting on this new gold system makes me sick, it is good for gankers and not so gd for farmers, but you're forgetting that farmers make money fast and also spend it fast so they don't need to wry abt losing the money they got and icefrog is just reinforcing the hero kill gold so in a 5v5 gank you won't instantly lose the gold you just got out of it because you got killed right after you killed one of their heroes -.-, and no for those who are thinking if your unreliable gold is 150 and you lose 200 it becomes 0 and you won't lose anything from your reliable gold, second denying will still be the same this system has no effect on that whatsoever, because denying creeps also gives less exp for nearby enemy heroes, it's a complicated type of gold system which DOES make it more competitive, and it's not for noobs because it's completely useless for them they'll just end up dying in ganks so they have to use the unreliable gold from farming is a wiser and faster way, and as for heroes like gondar, pit, soulkeeper,visage, trax, it doesn't affect them that much because they buy there items from wherever they are on the map n order not to lose the gold they have, and all of them can be played as gankers as well for all those who don't knw that already -.- stop saying it's easy it's not nice and shit like that it's not gonna be easy it's gonna be harder for those who cannot gank early game, and not that easy for gankers anyway even if they can keep their gank gold what happens if they got ambushed by 2 heroes... and no dota is not dead it's going to get much more exciting after this release knowing this because i play league of legends and dota this is a great system much more to learn and experiece it's a nice concept for me oh but one more thing ... last hitters are so gonna benefit from this and that's just plain stupid =P
Hey, may i know if when this version will release?
good, not only it is reliable, its unreliable!..
grande merda
sucks
no.. it depends on the player how he handles the game
nonsense
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